tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post9004381479221617720..comments2024-03-26T09:23:26.937-04:00Comments on ZooTennis: College Update; Kiick, Siniakova, Burdette Qualify for Sony Open; Liang ProfileColette Lewishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14905215531491180014noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-56047611178170095482013-03-26T12:37:43.061-04:002013-03-26T12:37:43.061-04:00Colette, Thanks for your response. Though it wasn&...Colette, Thanks for your response. Though it wasn't clear, what I meant (re: public/private) is that someone with a partial scholarship to a private school would still have a hefty bill to pay. On the other hand, someone with a similar partial scholarship at a state school most likely pays considerably less in college expenses. <br /><br />From a women's tennis perspective, it seems like it would be harder to find someone who would pay the cost of Duke to just walk on as opposed to say an in-state athlete at a UNC or Florida.Scholarshipsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-54568752119855592852013-03-25T17:10:17.195-04:002013-03-25T17:10:17.195-04:00@scholarships:
To answer your last question first,...@scholarships:<br />To answer your last question first, men's coaches are more creative because they have to be. Women's coaches either give out a full scholarship or they don't. And of course everyone knows which woman is in which category. With no option for everyone on a men's team to be on full scholarship, I think most boys and their parents realize early in the recruiting process that 100% scholarship is unlikely, so their expectations are lower. Private schools must abide by the same NCAA rules as public ones regarding scholarships, so that isn't relevant. Colette Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14905215531491180014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-49792333354826710972013-03-25T16:41:24.593-04:002013-03-25T16:41:24.593-04:00Colette, Regarding the Duke women's situation,...Colette, Regarding the Duke women's situation, you state, "Perhaps it is a have/have not situation. I think it is a lot to ask of a walk-on to devote the same amount of time and effort and receive zero for it compared to everyone else on the team. Most men on a team have at least some % of scholarship dollars, which even if small, is important to their status as a student-athlete."<br /><br />How is it that some of the top mens teams have 11-12 guys on the team with just 4.5 scholarships? Are most of the guys getting only small partials. Some of these players, especially at private schools, seem like they would have to be getting full scholarships. It seems like some of these players would be on the team with no money or are Men's coaches just more creative? scholarshipsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-58398875350542375502013-03-25T00:27:33.517-04:002013-03-25T00:27:33.517-04:00LoveTheGame said...
"To be fair to some of t...LoveTheGame said... <br />"To be fair to some of the smaller programs, it does cost money to have walk ons."<br /><br />Pardon my ignorance but how much could it cost?! The players' parents are paying the school full tuition! Even if it costs some money there is no excuse for having rosters with only 6-8 players under any circumstances.Arrogant/Incompetent College Coachesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-49701442309635941512013-03-22T10:06:16.590-04:002013-03-22T10:06:16.590-04:00To be fair to some of the smaller programs, it doe...To be fair to some of the smaller programs, it does cost money to have walk ons. Although, you'd think most teams would have at least one. Also, doesn't it seem that in men's tennis, since a 4 or 5 star recruit can walk on to a top 5 or 10 program, but would only receive a small scholarship to a lesser school, he may just want to go to the better program. Whereas, with women's tennis the same level player can get a full scholarship to a smaller or up and coming program. It's a no brainer for them, unless money doesn't matter in the slightest.LoveTheGamenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-655209805782889462013-03-22T01:23:45.790-04:002013-03-22T01:23:45.790-04:00Let me just say that if I was the Athletic Directo...Let me just say that if I was the Athletic Director at some of these schools where the tennis coach is so incompetent that they end up having to recruit intramural or club players at the school to fill their varsity lineup in the middle of the season, I would strongly consider firing the tennis coach. This is simply inexcusable and often a symptom of arrogance where the coach had previously turned away solid players that they didn't think were “elite” enough for them to be on their precious roster or they treated existing players like garbage which encouraged the players to quit the team.<br /><br />Perhaps there are unusual circumstances in some instances where 4 players get injured in one season or something, and I don't know the specific circumstances of the Duke Women's Team. However, this year the Santa Clara Men's team has had to recruit players from the regular student body including even the student volunteer on the sports information staff to fill in against competitive teams where they got wiped out 0 & 0 in 20 minutes. I happen to know that some very solid players who were ranked at least top 200 or top 150 on tennisrecruiting applied to Santa Clara and they were not asking for one penny in scholarship money but the coach wouldn't even respond to them. He really could have used those players and has no one to blame for this but his own arrogance. <br /><br />The University of Washington Women's Team had the exact same situation a couple of years ago and the coaches were pretty unwelcoming to a lot of players that they could have used rather than try to find a club player and/or default the match. The University of Michigan's Men's Team also has a roster that gets dangerously low and they could have been much more welcoming to players willing to play with no scholarship money. However, I don’t think the Michigan Men’s team ever had to fish for intramural players out of the student body…yet.<br /><br />Anyone who has more specific information than I do about programs in question should feel free to chime in.Arrogant/Incompetent College Coachesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-2347798355945674722013-03-20T14:24:08.692-04:002013-03-20T14:24:08.692-04:00Colette,
Does the Lipp girl have full eligibility...Colette,<br /><br />Does the Lipp girl have full eligibility for tennis for the future? Let's just say she took another year to graduate. Could she also play next year too if she did well?<br /><br />I think you are right about giving over $100,000.00 /year of scholarship to the 8 ladies and then having the walk-on person get zero & sit around so much of the time. It's a lot of hard work for no scholarship and then hardly getting to play. Whereas the boys don't get much to start with. <br /><br />*Look at Notre Dame men's team; they have 15 on the roster. love-tennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17427590420016383552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-15320208928422594052013-03-20T13:01:55.168-04:002013-03-20T13:01:55.168-04:00Wow Vanderbilt Men's team is looking almost as...Wow Vanderbilt Men's team is looking almost as good as their football team is! way to go!Impressive Doresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-65513270105306448702013-03-20T10:57:18.932-04:002013-03-20T10:57:18.932-04:00Perhaps it is a have/have not situation. I think i...Perhaps it is a have/have not situation. I think it is a lot to ask of a walk-on to devote the same amount of time and effort and receive zero for it compared to everyone else on the team. Most men on a team have at least some % of scholarship dollars, which even if small, is important to their status as a student-athlete. Colette Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14905215531491180014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-31095336259583068762013-03-20T10:50:03.829-04:002013-03-20T10:50:03.829-04:00Also,
Congrats to Mallory Burdette for qualfying ...Also, <br />Congrats to Mallory Burdette for qualfying . . . again! She was ranked #104 coming into this week and is on the verge of the top 100. She should be able to get in the Main Draws of the rest of the Grand Slams this year! An impressive start!college fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-36474096435404692732013-03-20T10:45:12.268-04:002013-03-20T10:45:12.268-04:00Colette,
Any chance you can expound on Austin'...Colette,<br />Any chance you can expound on Austin's comments? You do hear of women's matches where one team forfeits points. Yet, you never hear about it in men's tennis. Does it have more to do with the "headcount" requirements for women? I know all the girls have full scholarships, but is it that these teams don't have (or want) more than 8 players. It's a shame that, with so much more scholarship money available for women (than men), this issue happens for women. college fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-65142815473764394182013-03-20T09:52:55.255-04:002013-03-20T09:52:55.255-04:00Sock did beat the #108 player in the world, so he ...Sock did beat the #108 player in the world, so he didn't play terrible in qualifying.Austinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-28332911775797778932013-03-20T09:48:38.672-04:002013-03-20T09:48:38.672-04:00Ridiculous that Duke put themselves in that situat...Ridiculous that Duke put themselves in that situation to begin with. Women teams have no excuse for allowing this to happen. Men only have 4.5 scholorships and I never hear about it happening with them, but it seems to happen with the women a lot.Austinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10016685.post-34834609544356868532013-03-19T23:18:56.654-04:002013-03-19T23:18:56.654-04:00great to see Ginepri back at the Sony after a long...great to see Ginepri back at the Sony after a long layoff and working his way back from Futures. <br /><br /> Jack Sock fails to qualify again for an ATP event. Hope he continues to have to qualify and not be given the golden spoon. Embarrassing that Christian Harrison got one. <br /><br />Rhyne Williams deserved his wildcard into the main draw in Miami. <br />wildcardsnoreply@blogger.com